Thelma Todd in "The Haunted House" 1928
Original French 12 1/4 inch x 8 3/4 inch 8 Page Illustrated Pressbook for the 1927 Gregory La Cava Romantic Drama THE GAY DEFENDER, based on the story by Grover Jones and starring Richard Dix, Thelma Todd, Fred Kohler, Jerry Mandy and Robert Brower.
Original French 12 1/4 inch x 8 3/4 inch 8 Page Illustrated Pressbook for the 1927 John Waters Western NEVADA, based on the novel by Zane Grey and starring Gary Cooper, Thelma Todd, William Powell, Phillip Strange and Ernie Adams.
From Thelma Todd Group on facebook.
Dorothy DeBorba and Mary Kornmann in a publicity photo from "Fish Hooky."
This is an item I've had on the blog before. It was relisted on ebay, and this time the pictures are clearer. Note that not all of these people were in silent movies as this says.
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ebay seller's description:
"this is a wonderful silent movie item. it's a first annual equity carnival souvenir program from august 3, 1929. the event was held at the edgewater gables, santa monica, ca. cover offers lovely henry clive artwork. quite thick - 116 pgs, including covers.
1 pg image of such stars as -
stan laurel & oliver hardy
laura la plante
i madge bellamy
marguerite de la motte
warner oland (of charlie chan fame)
bert wheeler (of wheeler & woolsey fame).
robert woolsey. mentions rio rita.
francis x. bushman
ray griffith (raymond griffith)
billy dooley, the goofy gob
henry b. walthall
catherine dale owen
last page is promo for a kennel, picturing a german shepherd dog. the program is in very nice condition, esp when considering its age/fragile nature. some wear/damage that includes - tear on bottom edge of binding. tip crease that goes into 1st pg. a few edge tears. 1st pg has some red bleeding, but the image of sam hardy (director general) is terrific. back cover is a little separated from contents but is attached. back cover has some scratches, edge tears, corner creases. wonderful silent movie item."
Previously seen here:
Silent Screen Star~Jewel Carmen~ A Biography
Thelma Todd's photo shows up several times without being identified. She is part of this story, but it is not made clear here that she is Thelma Todd. The photo could be taken for Jewel Carmen.
The grand jury did not rule the death of Thelma Todd an accident. Actually threw out the accident theory, but were then split between murder and suicide and were unable to come to a decision.*
Roland West was not publicly accused of murder at the time.
*Same mistake was also in the last video. Actually the inquest had said it was probably an accident.
Nicole Frederick documentary.
A belief does not prove something, and not believing something does not disprove something. In this case, they didn't prove anything. Something that could be said of both the original investigation and this video.
The statement was made that Pat DiCicco was not a suspect, but he was one of the last people to see her alive, and ordinarily would have been considered at least a possible suspect if the authorities were looking for one. The problem here was that the investigation didn't get that far, for which reason it also is not certain if the case should be called a "crime", as I believe it was termed here.
Roland West was not considered to be one of the last people to see her alive, but I can see how someone might think he was, as she had gone back to the restaurant where he was at. But there is no proof, which isn't the only problem with this story, which attempts to overcome the objection that Thelma Todd would have known about the dangers of CO poisoning by placing the blame on someone else, who would also have known about the dangers of CO poisoning.
The story about Roland West unintentionally causing the death of Thelma Todd was not a new one when it was published by Marvin Wolf, as about the same story had previously appeared in HOLLYWOOD HEARTBREAK by Laurie Jacobson. The Marvin Wolf book shown in video does not have the story, which was in a magazine article that was published separately.
Richard W. Bann is an authority on the Hal Roach studio. He has said that Hal Roach complained about Marvin Wolf's account, something that has been ignored by accounts such as this video. He has also written that the nickname "Hot Toddy" was used by Thelma Todd herself.
Where controversy exists, I think it's better to listen to both sides. Not everyone does this, but everyone should.
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Below is a link to the first part of the Nicole Frederick documentary.
The Life And Career Of Thelma Todd Part 1
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And here are a few related links. "Thelma Todd's Death Solved" by Marvin Wolf is here, along with some of my previous posts which are related to what was in the video. I may not have all the answers, but I can tell you a little about this stuff.
Hollywood And The Underworld:
Memory And Mr. Roach:
"Thelma Todd's Death Solved" by Marvin Wolf:
Was Thelma Todd's Career In A Decline When She Died?: